Wednesday, February 19, 2020

Some Problems with Evolution Presented to the Author of Professor Dave Destroys Kent Hovind

Professor Dave Destroys Kent Hovind

Some problems were posted in the comments section of Professor Dave's debate, which at the time of 20 Feb, 2020, have been deleted.


Without having watched the entire debate I have an objection to evolution.


All biological systems are comprised of causes and effects.
An effect is dependent upon a cause.
What is dependent upon a cause, participates in the cause.
The effect which participates in the cause is less than the cause.
The cause is greater than the effect.
Greater and lesser is a top down system.
A system of causes and effects is a top-down system.
All biological systems are top-down.
The evolutionary tree of life is bottom-up.
All biological systems within the evolutionary tree of life are top-down.
A system that is both top-down and bottom-up is a system comprised of causes and effects both greater and lesser than each other.
What is both greater and lesser than each other in the same respect is a contradiction.
The tree of life is composed of greater and lesser than each other in the same respect.
Therefore the tree of life is composed of many contradictions.
A system of contradictions is impossible.
The tree of life is impossible.
As the tree of life is impossible, evolution from a common ancestor never happened.

Comment - a similar problem occurs in the big bang theory, which is also a bottom-up model. All systems within the big bang are top-down, within a bottom up model. Therefore the model is composed of many contradictions. Therefore the big bang never happened.

Second Post -

Top down follows from cause and effect. A cause has more being than the effect. Hence any system of causes and effects is top down. Or again, cause and effect is - less is from more. Less from more requires all systems to have more and less, which is to have top-down. A system is either top-down or bottom-up. If bottom up, then more from less, and something from nothing, which is impossible. If a system is top down, less is from more and something from something. All systems are top down.



The evolutionary tree of life begins with the common ancestor and moves through tansitionals to the tree tips. The common ancestor is X, the tip is Z=X+Y, where Z>X. The evolutionary tree of life is bottom-up, which is reducible to more from less, or something from nothing. The evolutionary tree of life requires the emergence of biological life to be an impossible superstition. Same problem with the big bang theory and the evolution of the universe. The so called evidence for evolution always requires the entire system to be superstitious in principle. Therefore, no mater how much apparent evidence there is for evolution, such as speciation, natural selection and mutations, the entire system is always false in principle from the false principle of more from less.

Evolution cannot account for sexuality. Biological evolution is modification through descent from a common ancestor. Descent infers a functioning sexuality in a functioning organism. Biological evolution is thereby dependent upon sexuality, which did not evolve. As sexuality is always integrated into the heterogeneous organism with diverse body parts, sexuality always exists within a functioning organism. If a functioning sexuality exists without evolution, the organism with all of its parts also began without evolution. Therefore evolution cannot account for any organ of any biological system.

Evolutionists claim the universe evolved, so everything that exists underwent a process of gradualism. And yet the so called evolving universe is composed of may parts that never evolved, such as mass, gravity, light, space, electricity, magnetism, time, energy, proton, neutron, electron and so on. The eclectic, just so universe of the evolutionists is a universe of selective gradualism created by the evolutionists to do what is required to have gradualism, but ignore gradualism where gradualism is dependent upon statism.

The creation-Evolution debate is reducible to a creation-creation debate. The creationist claims the universe came from the divinity who created all things from nothing, through the infinite power of God. The evolutionist claims the universe evolved through gradualism, which is more from less, and something from nothing. The evolutionist imitates the creation event, but substitutes the divinity for nothing. Evolutionism is thereby a closet creationism without any real creator. Or in other words, evolution is a self creation myth.

Many other objections can be made to evolution which are never given any robust response. For example,

1) irreducible complexity is contrary to gradualism.
2) Mutations are a single cause of evolution common to all organisms which are very diverse. The singularity and diversity of outcome are contrary to each other. 3) Natural selection only acts to reduce biological diversity contrary to the claims of gradualism.
4) The evolutionary theory is set up so no scientist can ever observe evolution at any time, due to the long time required for evolution to have occurred.
5) Evolution requires the support of dating theory which assumes the decay rates are constant over long times, whilst holding that all physical things evolved over time.
6) The fossil record is used to support the theory, whilst the record cannot be known to be in accordance with evolution due to the many unknowns associated with the record.
7) Biological evolution is biological alchemy, causing all biological systems to be a morass of biological monsters not evidenced in the natural world of the beautiful.
8) Evolution is generally based upon naturalism, materialism, rationalism and scientism which are all false world views.
9) Evolutionism always concludes to a false understanding of man as a material thing, when man is actually a composite of body and spiritual soul. The spirituality of the human soul is not accountable within evolutionary theory.
10) Gradualism is sophistry of something from nothing hidden under mutations.
11) Evolution is only a belief without reference to other systems of philosophy and theology that show evolutionism to be false.
12) Evolutionism is reducible to something will change into something diverse from itself through gradualism. And yet according to Aristotle natures are singular and never change from nature to another nature. For example, man has always been and will always be a man, and never anything other than a man.

If you wish to enter into a more robust world view, I invite you to engage the philosophy and theology of Thomas Aquinas and Augustine. Go to the Gregorian and the Angelicum in Rome and get an education that is more well rounded.


I don't expect an coherent response to any of the above statements simply because evolutionism is an incoherent, inconsistent, sophistic world view that is against science, philosophy, theology and the nature of man.

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Further comment (21 Feb 2020)


A seed is less than a tree. The growth involved to bring the seed to the tree is a process of nourishment and growth which is top down. Every system is top down. If there is an apparent more from less, the process only ever occurs in a top down system simply because a bottom up system is impossible.


The tree of life however is not apparent, but a real assertion of more from less, without any mechanism to provide the more. The tree of life is a fiction according to the false principle of more from less. In fact the tree of life is so poor that the entire universe is against it. For the universe is real and the real is always less from more, or top down. Every biological population within the tree of life is top down, whilst the tree of life is bottom up. As top down and bottom up are in contradiction to each other, evolution is a theory containing many contradictions.

Furthermore, if a bottom up system process is admitted to conform to evolution, the effect is greater than the cause and the effect is not longer entirely dependent upon the cause. A bottom up system always destroys the definitions of cause and effect and makes the entire system unintelligible. If evolution is true, then all systems are unintelligible and science which seeks to explain the physical world of causes and effects also becomes unintelligible.


Evolution destroys all science.


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