In Response to comments in Tom Bridgmans "Stupid Geocenrists Tricks"

The following comments are in response to comments made in Tom Bridgman's  "Stupid Geocenrists Tricks"

Tom - Orbits & Lagrange Points: Mr. Martin's entire thesis seems to be that if he doesn't understand it, in can't be real, or that the simple pedagogical models (2-body Kepler problem, 3-body Lagrange problem) can't be expanded to include more complex systems.

JM – Only “seems” to be Tom, or do you know for sure? What’s the evidence either way and why don’t you feel the need to tell us? Really Tom, do you think you are convincing anybody with this childish rhetoric?

Tom - The saddest part of this is in some cases Mr. Martin has actually identified effects that are included in 'real world' analyses, but he lacks the ability to actually apply the theory to explore the actual size of the effects that would make his claim irrelevant.

JM – And the sad part of your analysis is you continue to try to humiliate your opposition with half truths and innuendo, making your position unethical and therefore unconvincing. My observations concerning Lagrange points remain unanswered and until you answer my questions and observations that show Lagrange points are merely maths points derived from assumptions plus maths, which is therefore only an idealized, problematic model, then your claims about Lagrange points are moot.

Furthermore, your statements don’t actually mean anything anyway. What claim becomes irrelevant when I have the ability to explore the size of the effects on the Lagrange points? I’ve claimed the Lagrange points are merely abstract maths points derived from assumptions in physics, plus maths, plus concepts such as a circular orbit, which are inconsistent with Newtonian mechanics and heliocentrism. What’s Toms answer to these criticisms? Nothing but empty rhetoric and bold, chest thumping truth claims.

Tom - After spending time 'disproving' relativity, Mr. Martin then invokes relativity to prove Geocentrism.

JM – This is another falsehood perpetuated by Tom Bridgman. I don’t need relativity to prove geocentrism is true, nor have I used relativity to demonstrate its truth. The truth of geocentrism is founded upon physical experiment, without the need for relativity theory. I only ever evoke relativity as a tool to use against those who embrace relativity theory to show how illogical it is to embrace relativity and then deny geocentrism.

Tom - Talk about oxymoronic!

JM – Talk about an invention by Tom.

Tom - Will the Geocentrists declare war on a future Mars colony because the colonists use Mr. Martin's argument to prove Areocentrism?

JM - No, because the physics already points to the earth as the stationary center to the universe. This physics truth of the stationary earth is also backed up by revealed truths, which Tom seems to be ignorant of.

Tom - Mr. Martin has provided me a few additional good examples of the uselessness of Geocentrist 'science' which I can expand into more concrete examples.

JM – And Tom has provided us with more useful examples of hubris used by anti geocentrists who continue to jump up and down without producing the goods against God’s universe as revealed in geocentrism.

Tom - Therefore, I will reject, for a time, future comments from Mr. Martin, or comments that read like his particular style, so I can spend more time on that effort.

JM – I knew this would happen from experience. Tom has repeatedly lied about me, my arguments and geocentrism and now he is lying about the reasons for not engaging me.

Tom - If Mr. Martin wants to continue his whines, he can do so on his own blog. I check it periodically so posting notifications in my blog by others would be redundant.

JM – The only one whining is Tom. Tom has been soundly beaten by logic and physics experiment and now he wants to go home and take his bat and ball with him. He can do what he wants, but I believe I have gotten the better of him on several occasions and his arguments have been easily answered.

Geocentrism remains forever the true cosmology and Tom has done nothing to counter many physics experiments that confirm the earth is stationary at the center of the universe.

JM