"Lost" Atheist Experience #294 with Martin Wagner and Ashley Perrien
From time 7:28, the atheist states –
Omniscience - he [God] cannot surprise himself. He cannot do something he would not know about.
Omnipotence – he [God] would do something that even he would not predict.
If there is something God cannot do or know then God is not omnipotent or omniscient.
Response – The atheist’s argument is responded to below, showing the falsity of the premise and followed by a brief discussion.
Definitions –
Knowledge (K) is the power (P) to know, and the act to know (K is P).
All Powerful (AP)
All Knowledge (AK)
Some knowledge (SK)
Some power (SP)
All things – (AT)
The theist says in God there is both all knowledge and all power, stated as –
AK and AP – T
To prove the above logical statement from the above definitions –
AK
AT
AK and AT – all knowledge to know all things.
AP
AT
AP and AT – All power to do all things.
AK and AP. – T – all knowledge and all power.
The above proof is valid and sound because knowledge and power entail each other.
The atheist contends at least two statements are true that contradict the theistic divinity -
~AK and AP – T – not all knowledge and all power.
AK and ~AP – T – all knowledge and not all power.
Theist to show the above atheist’s statements are both false, based upon the truth of –
AK and AP. - T
To show –
~AK and AP – F
AK and ~AP – F
Proof using the truth values of conjunction truth tables.
AK and AP. – T
AK – T
AT – T
If ~AK and AP
~AK – F
AP – T
Then ~AK and AP - F
If AK and ~AP
AK – T
~AP – F
AK and ~AP – F
Because theism is true, then atheism is false.
Discussion – the atheist’s contention that all-powerful in God infers a power in God beyond knowledge in God, which is false. Because of the false premise, the atheist is able to infer a contradiction in the Christian God which does not in fact, exist. Because the premise is unsound the problem of the apparent contradiction in God is removed. There is no problem of all-powerful and not all knowing, or not all-powerful and all-knowing in God.
The atheist’s contention must be false for the notion of power as can do all acts, necessarily includes the notion of all knowledge as can do all acts of knowledge. It necessarily follows that if the deity is all powerful, then the deity is all knowing. There is no power in God not known by God. Alternatively, all-knowing does not infer a limited power in God. For all-knowing does not restrict any act of power, but presumes an unlimited power to know all things. All power and all knowing infer each other through entailment.
In God, there is both all knowledge and all power.
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